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Trainer FAQ v.99
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by Setsuna
Created 9-5-2001 last modified 9-11-2001
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PREAMBLE
I have taken it upon myself to release the next in-depth guide to help out all the Arcanum players who want help, since there is a shortage of good
Arcanum material out there.
Introducing the Trainer guide, which will list down the masters, experts and apprentices who can train you in their respective crafts. Now, this list is by no means complete, will not likely be complete for some time, because there are so many prospective trainers for apprentices, and more to the point
I have this annoying thing called a job which is preventing me from playing this game to my heart's content.
Still, there's a lot of good info here which should make life easier, or at least more convenient, for you. If you have anything to contribute, do not hesitate. Let's not be tight-fisted here, let's share the wealth with everyone!
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GENERAL TRAINING INFORMATION
Being an Apprentice will give you a slight bonus to the skill. Being an Expert gives you a larger bonus, and being a Master gives you a massive bonus. The bonus depends on the skill. For instance, if you are a master at Haggling you will get a large percentage discount to any purchase. If you are a master firearms master, you get a bonus to hit and to damage, as well as a speed bonus to your weapon, etc.
One day I might list down each exact bonus for each skill. But I will likely do that in a real Arcanum FAQ/Walkthrough, and not this measly little trainer supplement.
Apprentice training is literally all over the place. It is hard not to find an apprentice trainer. Just ask around and you'll usually find an apprentice trainer. Typically you can get apprentice training for most skills in any major city or town. Expert trainers are different, there are usually only two or three expert trainers for a particular skill. There is only one Master for any skill.
Side Note: When you gain master status, the designers of the game were kind enough to give you the option of icing the master who just trained you, so that "There can be only One." If you're an evil-sort of guy I'm pretty sure you will be over-joyed at this news. Talk about "Biting the
Hand that feeds you."
(I wonder if there is a reputation "Master Killer?")
Now, Apprentice training usually costs 80 to 100 gold. I think you can get a discount for this if you have haggling skill. Expert training is
500, and as far as I can tell it's a fixed price, regardless of haggling power. Master Training is totally different, it usually requires you to both find the master (usually a tough act in itself) AND doing some sort of quest or fulfilling a special requirement.
IMPORTANT!
Before you receive Master Training, be sure you are an expert and that you have something like 4 skill points invested in the skill, if not maxing it out with 5. Usually you will not be able to trigger the Master Training option if you do not have at least Expert Skill with 4 points. In some cases, like the Pick Pockets, you can receive Master Training without Expert skill, but your skill WILL NOT UPGRADE and you will be screwed forever because you can only receive Master Training once, so don't try it.
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The Trainers
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**** COMBAT SKILLS ****
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BOW
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Apprentice - Any Elite Bow Guard (Derhholm)
Expert - any Elite Bow Captain (Caladon)
Master - Kietzel Pierce (Anabelle's Galley, Blackroot)
* You will first find Mr. Pierce in the inn in Blackroot.
When you first talk to him he will give you a quest to find his wayward apprentice, Mr. Dudley. The loser can be found walking around Dernholm (he is one of the bow captains). After finishing this quest, talk to Kietzel again (likely he will be in the Caladon inn now, where you find the 2nd clue to the the Prowling Master).
Now ask him to train you, and he will give you a quest to find a legendary bow. He will mark the dungeon on your map. You can either find the bow for him or pay him 2000 gold to train you. The bow itself is relatively easy to find, but isn't really very good a bow;
Elumin's bow (from the Qintarra) is still the best magical bow in the game. Anyway, to find the bow, you will have to shoot the fire at the end of the first floor of the dungeon. This will transport you to the next stage, so don't give up if you can't seem to find the bow. Just shoot the fire.
NOTE: does anyone know where to find Boat Rigging or a Compound Bow?
I have been trying for ages to make a Pyrotechnic Bow but I am lacking these ingredients.
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DODGE
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Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Hekmer Oggdoddler (center island, Blackroot)
Master - Adkin Chambers (shack, Still Water)
* Adkin Chambers has this long-standing rivalry with the Master of
Melee, Garit whatsisname in Derhholm. I'll leave the story to you to find out. But if you want Mr. Chamber's training, you will have to kill Garit. Once that's done, Mr. Chambers will be more than happy to train you.
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MELEE
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Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Hekmer Oggdoddler (center island, Blackroot) - a dwarf in the Wheel Clan I think will also train you
Master - Garit whatsisname (Barracks or Palace, Dernholm)
* You must do a quest for him. He will show you a place on the map where you can rescue the woman he is smitten with. Kill all her assailants and agree to her scheme. Then Garit will train you as the master, but if you want to learn the Master of Dodge skill you will likely have to fight the Master of Melee afterwards. Just be careful here if you want to do all the quest.
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THROWING
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Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Lianna del Par (house, Dernholm)
Master - Clarissa Shalmo (Anabelle's Galley , Blackroot)
She is the half-orc by the bar. I can't believe I missed her the first time around (I thought Clarissa was a human or elf, oh there goes my racial prejudice) ^_^ Anyway, like Mr. Pierce she will send you out on a quest to find a legendary throwing star. She will mark the dungeon where you need to go. Like the
Legendary Bow Dungeon, you will have to shoot some fires out to progress. Here, though, there are three fires at a time and you have to shoot the right one. This dungeon is a little long, but fairly easy. Just stick it out and at the end you'll get the dumb throwing star.
**** THIEVING SKILLS ****
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BACKSTAB
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Apprentice - Magick Shop Clerk of Barach's Magerium in Tarant
- Any thief city-dweller in the cities.
Expert - Any Thief Fence
Master - Edmund Craig (Roseborough)
You will find Mr. Craig in a little house north of the dairy farms in Roseborough. Talk to him, he will be very edgy because he is in hiding. He will be so scared of you that you will have to almost force him to train you. Once he agrees, you will be the master, but as you leave he will try to kill you. So knock his block off and you are now the one and only backstab master in Arcanum! MWAHAHAHAHHAA!!
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PICK POCKETS
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Apprentice - Any thief in any major city (the guys who give you thief quests)
Expert - Poone (Poone's Flophouse, Tarant)
Master - Sammie White (Kensington Park, Tarant)
* To receive his training, you must match wisecracks with this bastard.
Talk to him, and keep insulting him like hell. He actually likes being insulted. Then ask him why he likes insults, and be friendly with him (agree all the way). Then he will tell you to run around
Tarant naked. This will give you the Pervert of Tarant reputation (reduces Reaction to you from people in Tarant, but who cares), and after you've received this rep you can talk to him again and he will grant you Master status. Now sneak up behind him and backstab him for all the misery he put you through.
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PROWLING
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Elite Bow Guard (Dernholm)
Expert - Any Elite Bow Captain (Caladon)
- Any Thief Fence boss (e.g. - Mr. Black in Tarant)
Master - Albert Leek (Sobbing Onion, Caladon)
* To receive his training, the hard part is actually finding him.
Whoever trained you as an expert will give you a scroll with four parts. Each part has a riddle which you must solve, to lead you to the next part. Frankly I never figured it out past the 2nd part, but someone told me that the guy in the Sobbing Onion was the master.
Anyway, go to Mr. Leek and ask him to buy you a drink. Keep drinking until you're so wasted that you journal looks like demented crud and you're talking like a simpleton. Anyway, after several drinks you can ask Mr. Leek about prowling training and he will admit being the master. Receive your training and sleep the booze off. ^_^
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SPOT TRAPS
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Apprentice - most human guards anywhere - any low-level thief anywhere
Expert - Hakmer Oggdoddler (or however you spell his name) in Blackroot - supposedly someone in the Wheel Clan can teach you too
Master - Fred Fitzgerald (40 Polton Cross, Tarant)
Mr. Fitzgerald is found in 40 Polton Cross, not the Bride's Dale
Inn where he is supposed to have a room. Anyway, he will tell you of a mage castle (he will mark this on his map) which is loaded with traps, and you must get in and retrieve a magical (but frankly next to useless) staff. Just make your way through (if you can disarm traps this will be very easy) and either unlock or break the chest at the end of the dungeon. The staff is inside. You will also face the most evil and the most magical opponent in the game -- the lich of the wizard who owns the castle. Don't worry though, he's a piece of cake.
**** SOCIAL SKILLS ****
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GAMBLING
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Apprentice - any Barfly who gambles (the ones who ask you a question)
Expert - any Bartender
Master - Gurin Rockhollow (Gentleman's Club, Tarant)
* This dwarf has a big ego problem, so knock him down a few pegs by gambling with him and taking all his money. Word of caution: he only plays for stakes of 1,000 or 2,000 gold, and he has something like 5,000 gold. If you're even half-way intelligent and have full gambling skill and are an expert, you shouldn't have any trouble cleaning his purse. Once you win enough from him he will name you master.
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HAGGLE
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Trainer FAQ v.99
----------------------------------------------
by Setsuna
Created 9-5-2001 last modified 9-11-2001
===============================================================================
Best viewed on a text processor with a fixed size font, width of 79 characters.
===============================================================================
E-MAIL POLICY
******* IMPORTANT! READ THIS BEFORE E-MAILING ME ANYTHING *******
I welcome comments, suggestions, contributions, and I enjoy the occasional flame. However, if you are to mail me anything I require you to put this in the subject tag:
[Arcanum FAQ]
This will help me sort my mail better. Thanks for your consideration.
===============================================================================
PREAMBLE
I have taken it upon myself to release the next in-depth guide to help out all the Arcanum players who want help, since there is a shortage of good
Arcanum material out there.
Introducing the Trainer guide, which will list down the masters, experts and apprentices who can train you in their respective crafts. Now, this list is by no means complete, will not likely be complete for some time, because there are so many prospective trainers for apprentices, and more to the point
I have this annoying thing called a job which is preventing me from playing this game to my heart's content.
Still, there's a lot of good info here which should make life easier, or at least more convenient, for you. If you have anything to contribute, do not hesitate. Let's not be tight-fisted here, let's share the wealth with everyone!
===============================================================================
GENERAL TRAINING INFORMATION
Being an Apprentice will give you a slight bonus to the skill. Being an Expert gives you a larger bonus, and being a Master gives you a massive bonus. The bonus depends on the skill. For instance, if you are a master at Haggling you will get a large percentage discount to any purchase. If you are a master firearms master, you get a bonus to hit and to damage, as well as a speed bonus to your weapon, etc.
One day I might list down each exact bonus for each skill. But I will likely do that in a real Arcanum FAQ/Walkthrough, and not this measly little trainer supplement.
Apprentice training is literally all over the place. It is hard not to find an apprentice trainer. Just ask around and you'll usually find an apprentice trainer. Typically you can get apprentice training for most skills in any major city or town. Expert trainers are different, there are usually only two or three expert trainers for a particular skill. There is only one Master for any skill.
Side Note: When you gain master status, the designers of the game were kind enough to give you the option of icing the master who just trained you, so that "There can be only One." If you're an evil-sort of guy I'm pretty sure you will be over-joyed at this news. Talk about "Biting the
Hand that feeds you."
(I wonder if there is a reputation "Master Killer?")
Now, Apprentice training usually costs 80 to 100 gold. I think you can get a discount for this if you have haggling skill. Expert training is
500, and as far as I can tell it's a fixed price, regardless of haggling power. Master Training is totally different, it usually requires you to both find the master (usually a tough act in itself) AND doing some sort of quest or fulfilling a special requirement.
IMPORTANT!
Before you receive Master Training, be sure you are an expert and that you have something like 4 skill points invested in the skill, if not maxing it out with 5. Usually you will not be able to trigger the Master Training option if you do not have at least Expert Skill with 4 points. In some cases, like the Pick Pockets, you can receive Master Training without Expert skill, but your skill WILL NOT UPGRADE and you will be screwed forever because you can only receive Master Training once, so don't try it.
===============================================================================
The Trainers
===============================================================================
**** COMBAT SKILLS ****
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BOW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Elite Bow Guard (Derhholm)
Expert - any Elite Bow Captain (Caladon)
Master - Kietzel Pierce (Anabelle's Galley, Blackroot)
* You will first find Mr. Pierce in the inn in Blackroot.
When you first talk to him he will give you a quest to find his wayward apprentice, Mr. Dudley. The loser can be found walking around Dernholm (he is one of the bow captains). After finishing this quest, talk to Kietzel again (likely he will be in the Caladon inn now, where you find the 2nd clue to the the Prowling Master).
Now ask him to train you, and he will give you a quest to find a legendary bow. He will mark the dungeon on your map. You can either find the bow for him or pay him 2000 gold to train you. The bow itself is relatively easy to find, but isn't really very good a bow;
Elumin's bow (from the Qintarra) is still the best magical bow in the game. Anyway, to find the bow, you will have to shoot the fire at the end of the first floor of the dungeon. This will transport you to the next stage, so don't give up if you can't seem to find the bow. Just shoot the fire.
NOTE: does anyone know where to find Boat Rigging or a Compound Bow?
I have been trying for ages to make a Pyrotechnic Bow but I am lacking these ingredients.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DODGE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Hekmer Oggdoddler (center island, Blackroot)
Master - Adkin Chambers (shack, Still Water)
* Adkin Chambers has this long-standing rivalry with the Master of
Melee, Garit whatsisname in Derhholm. I'll leave the story to you to find out. But if you want Mr. Chamber's training, you will have to kill Garit. Once that's done, Mr. Chambers will be more than happy to train you.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MELEE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Hekmer Oggdoddler (center island, Blackroot) - a dwarf in the Wheel Clan I think will also train you
Master - Garit whatsisname (Barracks or Palace, Dernholm)
* You must do a quest for him. He will show you a place on the map where you can rescue the woman he is smitten with. Kill all her assailants and agree to her scheme. Then Garit will train you as the master, but if you want to learn the Master of Dodge skill you will likely have to fight the Master of Melee afterwards. Just be careful here if you want to do all the quest.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THROWING
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Guard
Expert - Lianna del Par (house, Dernholm)
Master - Clarissa Shalmo (Anabelle's Galley , Blackroot)
She is the half-orc by the bar. I can't believe I missed her the first time around (I thought Clarissa was a human or elf, oh there goes my racial prejudice) ^_^ Anyway, like Mr. Pierce she will send you out on a quest to find a legendary throwing star. She will mark the dungeon where you need to go. Like the
Legendary Bow Dungeon, you will have to shoot some fires out to progress. Here, though, there are three fires at a time and you have to shoot the right one. This dungeon is a little long, but fairly easy. Just stick it out and at the end you'll get the dumb throwing star.
**** THIEVING SKILLS ****
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BACKSTAB
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Magick Shop Clerk of Barach's Magerium in Tarant
- Any thief city-dweller in the cities.
Expert - Any Thief Fence
Master - Edmund Craig (Roseborough)
You will find Mr. Craig in a little house north of the dairy farms in Roseborough. Talk to him, he will be very edgy because he is in hiding. He will be so scared of you that you will have to almost force him to train you. Once he agrees, you will be the master, but as you leave he will try to kill you. So knock his block off and you are now the one and only backstab master in Arcanum! MWAHAHAHAHHAA!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PICK POCKETS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any thief in any major city (the guys who give you thief quests)
Expert - Poone (Poone's Flophouse, Tarant)
Master - Sammie White (Kensington Park, Tarant)
* To receive his training, you must match wisecracks with this bastard.
Talk to him, and keep insulting him like hell. He actually likes being insulted. Then ask him why he likes insults, and be friendly with him (agree all the way). Then he will tell you to run around
Tarant naked. This will give you the Pervert of Tarant reputation (reduces Reaction to you from people in Tarant, but who cares), and after you've received this rep you can talk to him again and he will grant you Master status. Now sneak up behind him and backstab him for all the misery he put you through.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PROWLING
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - Any Elite Bow Guard (Dernholm)
Expert - Any Elite Bow Captain (Caladon)
- Any Thief Fence boss (e.g. - Mr. Black in Tarant)
Master - Albert Leek (Sobbing Onion, Caladon)
* To receive his training, the hard part is actually finding him.
Whoever trained you as an expert will give you a scroll with four parts. Each part has a riddle which you must solve, to lead you to the next part. Frankly I never figured it out past the 2nd part, but someone told me that the guy in the Sobbing Onion was the master.
Anyway, go to Mr. Leek and ask him to buy you a drink. Keep drinking until you're so wasted that you journal looks like demented crud and you're talking like a simpleton. Anyway, after several drinks you can ask Mr. Leek about prowling training and he will admit being the master. Receive your training and sleep the booze off. ^_^
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SPOT TRAPS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - most human guards anywhere - any low-level thief anywhere
Expert - Hakmer Oggdoddler (or however you spell his name) in Blackroot - supposedly someone in the Wheel Clan can teach you too
Master - Fred Fitzgerald (40 Polton Cross, Tarant)
Mr. Fitzgerald is found in 40 Polton Cross, not the Bride's Dale
Inn where he is supposed to have a room. Anyway, he will tell you of a mage castle (he will mark this on his map) which is loaded with traps, and you must get in and retrieve a magical (but frankly next to useless) staff. Just make your way through (if you can disarm traps this will be very easy) and either unlock or break the chest at the end of the dungeon. The staff is inside. You will also face the most evil and the most magical opponent in the game -- the lich of the wizard who owns the castle. Don't worry though, he's a piece of cake.
**** SOCIAL SKILLS ****
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GAMBLING
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apprentice - any Barfly who gambles (the ones who ask you a question)
Expert - any Bartender
Master - Gurin Rockhollow (Gentleman's Club, Tarant)
* This dwarf has a big ego problem, so knock him down a few pegs by gambling with him and taking all his money. Word of caution: he only plays for stakes of 1,000 or 2,000 gold, and he has something like 5,000 gold. If you're even half-way intelligent and have full gambling skill and are an expert, you shouldn't have any trouble cleaning his purse. Once you win enough from him he will name you master.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAGGLE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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